In an interview with The New York Times Magazine, Lyft cofounder and president John Zimmer discusses the quickness with which ride hailing has been adopted, the future of self-driving cars, and how, under no circumstances, would he ever take an Uber.

LOL, hilarious interview with Lyft co-founder @johnzimmer: https://t.co/DvE0GucveL pic.twitter.com/dd1UjStdim

— Alex Kantrowitz (@Kantrowitz) May 15, 2018

At least he’s consistent.